Talk:Dice

I got added a bunch of "=" because the guidelines state there should be a minimum of 2 on each side the opening of a section/folder/whatever. Now the contents map (or whatever it is called) is gone! Can someone fix it so it both has that contents map thing and conforms to the guidelines?--Emerald Claw (talk) 03:25, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Not that I have strong feelings on the matter, but why were all the dice pages merged into this page?--Emerald Claw (talk) 03:26, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Consolidation. It is much more logical to have a single page on one subject than a large number of short articles. Seeing as the main "Dice" page was also somewhat sparse in content, the merging does not make the page overly long, either. --Asorel (talk) 12:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Um. I think there was a conversation on the d4 page that was talking about how true the oldfag thing is. I can't find it here or on the d4 discussion page (the d4 page still exists as a redirect page). Is there a way to recover that conversation?--Emerald Claw (talk) 21:31, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Apply clear tag.

Apply the {{clear}} tag a bunch to this page to get the images to line up. I'd do it, but I'm going to sleep.--Agiletek (talk) 06:09, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Rolling d100 with two d10s

The article suggests that when rolling a result of 00 and 0, the result is ambiguous, and it should be counted as 100. However, wouldn't a roll of 90 and 10 also be a 100? Giving a double chance of a 100? Would it not be better to count the single tens die as a 10, since the number ten doesn't have the same discrepancy of two ways to reach it?--Bobobaggins (talk) 01:56, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Link Slipmcripfist (talk) 03:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

The citation they use for that section is a blogpost that goes on to say you should count the zero on a tens die as a 10, and it's the only internally consistent ruleset. Anecdotal, but it's certainly the one I'm familiar with. Seems more to me like Wikipedia misinterpreted the blogpost.--Bobobaggins (talk) 08:22, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Jesus Fuck that blog post must be written by someone with a stick shoved so far up his ass it's blocking his nose.

Most people would say a 00 on the percentile and a 0 on the d10. BUT, given the facts I’ve just carefully laid out, that violates the rules you determine the rest of your rolls by. A 00-0 roll would, technically, be a straight up zero.

God forbid you violate make an exception to the rules so they actually function. Plus the very implication you can "roll your d100s wrong" when both ways result in an equal chance to get 1-100 is asinine. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:6D93:A45B:F549:A177 10:13, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

No, because 9 on the tens and 10 on the ones is 90. How else do you think you'll get a 90? Tl;dr is both dice are either 0-9, not 1-10 (with two zeroes equal to 100) or they're 1-10 and 1-10, it's probably trickier to understand but doesn't need the single exception. Or you make them a 0-9 and a 1-10, more complicated but hey, some people like that. It won't change the chance of rolling any number either way, just be consistent. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:6D93:A45B:F549:A177 10:08, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

80+10 is 90. Every tens result can be achieved by rolling a 10 on the ones die, and 10 lower than the chosen number on the tens die. What you're describing in your TL;DR is what's being suggested, counting the tens die as 0-9 and the singles as 1-10. As if you do the reverse, then you have to have an inconsistent ruleset where 00 on the tens die is either 0 or 100 conditionally depending on what the ones die is. It can work, but it has flaws and I think the 00+0=10 interpretation deserves a mention on this page.--Bobobaggins (talk) 10:54, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

I agree it can work with the tens/ones being different (0-9 and 1-10), hence I added it to the page with the usual sort of tongue-in-cheek about the arguing we do here, though personally I feel it leaves more room for confusion with new players or people rolling quickly. Though I'd disagree that the reverse is inconsistent, there's only a single exception (when you roll two zeroes).

All in all, there's 3 ways and they all work, hence on the page I've just said 'do what you like, the only idiots are people who say a functional way that works for you is wrong and you're bad for using it'. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:6D93:A45B:F549:A177 11:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)