Talk:Cypher

I do not agree at all : Cypher rules were available in the Chaos Codex 3rd edition (and he was a pretty cool character btw).

How is this guy the Dark Angel equivalent of my little pony? --Talon of Anathrax (talk) 19:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

...talk of another taking his path suggests that the voted-lieutenant took up the mantle (to go with the broken sword), leaving a known alpha+ psyker free to pursue other career paths. Said blade-bearer was known to be politically savvy as well.

On the Lion Sword

• Here’s a thought; what if the Lion wasn’t all on board with having his farther plugged into the golden throne, suffering on the brink of death for the rest of eternity. In the old lore the high lords were split upon what to do, with those wanting to release the Emperor eventually being assassinated by those who wanted to keep the Emperor alive to act as a figure head and a thing of worship in the wake of the Heresy. In the “Russ: Primarch” story Russ mourns the fact that the Lion was not present when the legions was split as he says that he would have opposed Guilliman and would never have allowed such a thing to happen. It’s possible that the Lion and Guilliman may have disagreed strongly on the Emperor’s situation and he may have eventually been able to gather enough of his brothers and lords to his cause. Now the Fallen have claimed that the Lion had gone “traitor” but how would they have known this after all they had been isolated for the duration of the Heresy. What if Guilliman in fear of the Lion gathering enough strength to oppose him actually sent a “warning” to Caliban about what he suspected the Lions intentions were? This warning could have been the catalysts that saw the Fallen fire upon the Lion on his return and eventually led to his eventual disappearance. What if Guilliman saw the Sword upon Cyphers back as a dark omen of the Lions return and possible retaliation; he would certainly be put on edge at the idea that the Lion could possibly be still out there. This is of course a theory but in “Ezekiel” it is claimed that Cypher was given a great task by the dying Primarch and it appears to have something to do with the Lion Sword and the Emperor.

Cypher's Escape

So the prison Cypher get put in, is it the the prison from "The Outcast Dead", Khangba Marwu/Hollow Mountain? In which case it might not be as unescapable as they keep building it up to be, because not only do the Outcast Dead escape from it, but I swear there's a throw-away line about the only other escapee in the entire place's history being a dwarf. The Greater Meh (talk) 15:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

We don't know where he was locked up, just somewhere in the Imperial Palace. Given his ability to vanish into thin air though Cypher's escape is hardly surprising. -- Triacom (talk) 23:53, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Fallen cover-up

(Maybe they will take a page from Papa Stalin's playbook?).(Think about it this way people don't know what we know about space marines only that they are the Emperors avenging angels and they were standing near a RESURRECTED PRIMARCH WHO HAVEN'T BEEN SEEN FOR 10,000 YEARS, the people standing next to the primarch would be of little importance to the people they would just think "Cool space marine of a chapter i don't know" and think nothing of it.) - anon

You're forgetting the DA take the Fallen extremely SRSLY, going so far as to blow up allied ships who happened to witness one. So it's not just the little people who saw them, it's everyone in the Imperium : citizens, guardsmen, every single chapter and most importantly, the Inquisition, with Greyfax having first hand experience, right up to the point they all got arrested in public. - anon

Edits

yeeeeaaah and blow up Terra while st it because of the ultimate failsafe installed in the Golden Throne by, constructed by Vulkan on Big E's order which would make Terra blow up should the Emperot die (reference "Old Earth"). So Emperor knows why some people keep rehearsing that the Rmperor managed to die over the last 10 millenia. If that was so Terra would be an asteroid field, plain and simple. So whatever is sitting on the throne has some life in "it" left, or Terra would be no more (reference "Old Earth").

The section being edited does not dispute that the Emperor was alive, and actually talks about assassinating him (you cannot assassinate a dead man). The very next paragraph already goes into more detail about the Emperor's failsafe device built by Vulkan and what would happen if he dies and/or the throne ceases to function. Since no-one actually knows Cypher's true intentions, he could be working for Chaos and this could be the goal, the article even mentions that too. The above edit was completely unnecessary. --Dark Angel 2020 (talk) 20:04, 14 November 2020 (UTC)