Talk:AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopter

Can we ban the Russian cunt spamming Anti-American and Anti-Ukraine bullshit on this page that has to be constantly deleted?

Illegal invasion of Panama

Exactly what is says on the tin. What's wrong, anon? Other than evil Putinists infiltrating the timescape and making their edits in 2020 to justify their invasion of 2022, I mean. --Flutist (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

It's a classic putinist whataboutism and Ukraine War trivialization trope, which you well know, and similar pro-NATO posts would not be tolerated. Also putin invaded in 2014, it just failed -- anonymous fella

How's one illegal invasion making another illegal invasion legal? Are you well? Also, lol, some invasion it was in 2014.--Flutist (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

As I said it's putinist whataboutism (seriously even Wikipedia has an article on that shit), oh and denying that putin invaded in 2014, yeah your clearly a vatnik propagandist, its well recorded and acknowledged by anyone who's not a rashist. BTW your current invasion is also failing.

It's a pro-putin post and we all know you would not tolerate similar pro-NATO posts -- anonymous fella

-I agree. I think we need to ban this douchenik.

You should read that article about whataboutism then, because you can't label anything you don't like as it. The fact that Russia illegally invaded Ukraine doesn't make any other invasion legal. The whole Panama business was labeled illegal by the UN. Furthermore, we can nowadays see a difference between an invasion and a civil war with heavy backing from another countries. Oh, and this whole wiki consists of "similar pro-NATO posts", if you haven't noticed. You don't see me running around writing rambling nonsense and crying about "censorship". Also, don't try to pretend you're two persons at once, it looks pathetic, frankly. --Flutist (talk) 23:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

The very fact you label the Ukraine business civil war is proof your repeating putinist propaganda points, and not arguing in good faith. Perhaps they've bumped the rubles per post up by one or two?

Anyway, it literally reads: The term receives increased attention when controversies involving Russia are in the news. For example, writing for Slate in 2014, Joshua Keating noted the use of "whataboutism" in a statement on Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea, where Putin "listed a litany of complaints about Western intervention."

That litany, which putin repeats regularly, includes among others Panama, Yugoslavia, Lybia, Syria, etc. So yes you are pushing putinist propaganda, but that's what they pay you for right? An entire campaign of the internet research agency is dedicated to continuously paying people to seed these mentions in, all of which is public knowledge BTW. But I'll take you up on your offer re Pro-NATO, if my posts are reverted my point will be proven, if not then things will be a bit more symmetric. -- anonymous fella

-I'm not the same guy as the other guy. But I'm sure Russian filth knows everything there is to know about being pathetic.

Of course you aren't. Just happen to be as unhinged as he is, use the same vocabulary as he and possess the same bad editing skills. The world is full of coincidences, isn't it? --Flutist (talk) 23:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

We're completely different people, which I know is hard for you to grasp since you like to log out to make some of your reverts, not that any of it matters either way. -- anonymous fella

-He seems pretty sane. I, on the other hand, admit I'm unhinged. I'd take any Russian sympathizer and gut them alive and forcefeed them their own internal organs if I had the chance to do so and get away with it. Hell, I'd force you filthy orcs' mothers to consume your corpses at gunpoint if given half the chance, after what happened at Bucha and the incident with the 6 month old baby boy being raped to death by two of the pedos Putin the "family values" czar let loose.

no one disputes that youre unhinged. Like, I'm like 90% sure that the discord server is taking bets on when you show up in an edgy teenager news segment.

This is literally a team yankee article; if you play the game you're aware of Cold War history and all the shit that came with it. We have long since accepted that America invades other countries and makes up the pretense later. Are we actually going to start reverting all the edits that make fun of WMDs in Iraq just bc Russia is illegally invading Ukraine and putin is going wHatAbOuTiSm? No. The self-defense operation to depose a president in another country to protect a technically-US-Canal is pretty obviously skub.

To be clear I have no problem with the article as just edited by User:MiaoKobayashisDragonMaid. I'm not here to push pro-NATO content, putin is already the best NATO salesman ever anyway. Only to remove obvious putinist talking points. That's why I won't revert this removal, where my previous edit was solely to make the point that random pro-NATO content will be removed so there's sure as hell no reason to leave in pro-putin nonsense that's been shoehorned into places following scripts dictated by the internet research agency. -- anonymous fella

The other anon needs to understand that accepting and/or saying the US invaded XYZ isn't a Putinism, it's common fucking sense because that's what every great power (unfortunately) does. The Putinism part that vatniks do is taking it further to say "well the US invaded X so we can do our shitty failed invasion special military operation in Y". And Flutist isn't doing that.

Tl;dr: Other anon, calm the fuck down. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:E8C8:8FF0:1F1F:4335 01:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

It's beyond dispute that User:Flutist was posting putinist talking points in the exact way the internet research agency has directed its people to post using nearly identical verbiage. Their SOP is to casually mention that [insert NATO country here] participated in the illegal attack on [Yugoslavia/Panama/Libya/etc] as part of their larger whataboutist propaganda ploy, often combined with other attempts to trivialize their action in invading Ukraine which your post strays dangerously close to BTW. I don't mind legitimate criticism of NATO when it's inclusion is organic and placed within appropriate context, but if I see random mentions that follow the above pattern shoehorned in wherever I will call them out, it's what NAFO does. -- anonymous fella

-yeah, and I'm not gonna act calm and polite to pieces of Russian Federation dogshit when they start trying to utilize their propaganda on a board about NY traditional gaming hobbies any more than I'm gonna tolerate any propagandist bullshit trying to whitewash Islamist historical revisionism on it.

oh what would we ever do without you? *cries manly tears* we should have a day for brave veterans like you *salutes takes a knee sucks an eagle's cock*

-Keep laughing, pedophile. I haven't forgotten you jerk it to an anime with a blatant loli character. And don't pull the "ackshully she 1000 years old" THATS STILL A LITTLE GIRL IN DRAGON YEARS YOU SICK CUNT

What the fuck happened here lmao.